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Draygomb
7 Dec 07, 12:07:38 PM
I’m looking to start a game early next year. It’s intended to favor strategy over luck. And since it’s based on secrecy and initially there aren’t any lynchings it will be played mostly through pm’s. Though I do have some uses for a game thread. The game is likely to start off quite slow as the spy masters build their teams and their dossiers on everyone, while searching for each other. The game will also be untimed allowing everyone who needs to, to check in. Thus it should be suitable as a sideline game at least initially.

SPY MASTERS

Life is good in the country of RnR. The last survivor of the werewolf attacks has long since passed away and the mafia was destroyed just before the start of The Great War. RnR is rich from selling arms to both sides of the conflict and the influx of fleeing scientists has made us the world leader in advanced technology.

Outside of RnR life is not so good. After defeating the Yellow Axis the differences between the Reds and Blues has intensified, splitting apart the Purple Alliance and once again threatening to dump the world back into War. While the generals wait for their orders to march others are already making the first moves of THE COLD WAR.

Concept:
Players are divided into 2 or more teams
Each team is assigned a color which represents their ideology
1 Person from each team is selected as their Spy Master
The Spy Masters job is to destroy all of the other spy rings by breaking their chain of command or eliminating all of their spies.
Only Spies may be eliminated
If a non-spy dies his killer will be revealed – May trigger Lynchings
To help accomplish their goal Spy Masters may hire and train new spies
Spies can learn skills to perform tasks

Obviously this game will start out slow as each side recruits and trains it’s team.
Just as obvious is the quick and bloody end game.

Skills:
Investigate– Hides/Finds Ideology Color,
If used on the same level the subject is alerted that they have been investigated
If used on a higher level the result will be your own color and they will know who investigated them
Recruit Spies – Hires 1 Spy per level of skill into the organization and Teaches the basics of Spying
Bookkeeping – Hides/Finds Money Laundering Operations including where the Money Trail comes from
If used on the next higher level results will be unclear
If used on even higher levels no unusual funds will be detected
Surveillance – Hides/Finds Contacts and that turns Activities
If used on the same level the subject is alerted that they have been followed
If used on the next higher level Illegal activities will be canceled and they will know who followed them
If used on even higher levels no Activities will be detected and they will know who followed them
Assassinate – Kills/Protects,
If used on the next higher level the attempt fails
If used on 2 levels higher the attempt fails and they will know who tried to off them
If used on even higher levels the attempt backfires and they will know who ordered the kill
If used to fake a kill the “victim” can remain off the play list as long as they have a string of safe houses to move into.
Set Up Safe House – Creates a one time use Safe House that Helps Protect vs. Assassination and Surveillance
Safe Houses protect against all Assassins of the same level or lower
Any player who knows the password may use the house, If an assassin knows or guesses the password the safe house becomes a kill zone adding to the level of the assassin.
Teach Skill – Anyone who knows a skill may teach it to 1-3 players per turn provided that funds for class materials are available.

Other Roles:
TBA

How to determine if someone is a spy:
Recruit them
Be recruited by them
Use Surveillance to catch them recruiting someone else
Use Bookkeeping to trace their funds back to Spy HQ

Possible Tells:
Non-Cops who perform Surveillance
Non-Reporters who Investigate
Anyone who Assassinates someone
Anyone who sets up a Safe House

Spy Organizations and their Associated Ideologies:
BRN – Brown
RED – Red
ORG – Orange
YLW – Yellow
GRN – Green
BLU – Blue
PRP – Purple
GRY – Grey

Colleges:
Colleges offer 1 class per round open to everyone but seating is limited so declare your class choices early
RnR Education Depot
Bill Landis University
Yonkers Learning World

Order of Actions:
Move To Safe House
Surveillance, Investigate, Bookkeeping
Raise Funds
Assassinate
Take/Teach Class, Set Up Safe House, Recruit

Order of Assassinations:
Higher Level Assassins go before Lower Level Assassins
More Experienced go before Less Experienced
Those who were trained earlier before those who were trained later
Randomly Picked First before randomly picked last

Chain of Command:
In order for your organization to survive your assassination you must let your supervisor and your replacement know who each other are.
You also need to inform the rest of your subordinates and the people they will report to who each other are.
Of course it’s not official until you tell me.
Obviously it’s not good for every member of the ring to know the entire CoC as double agents are permitted.
If the CoC gets broken you’ll have to re-recruit all the lost members.

the WORST elf
7 Dec 07, 12:11:16 PM
I'm in.

Tears On My Dong
7 Dec 07, 03:38:10 PM
I'll play.

Draygomb
10 Dec 07, 05:21:12 AM
1 Damian
2 Tears

Norseman
10 Dec 07, 06:08:45 AM
I'm guessing this is turn-based, but are you only able to take one action each round? Or could you recruit someone and also train them in the same round?

1 Damian
2 Tears
3 Norseman

Draygomb
10 Dec 07, 07:13:25 AM
I'm guessing this is turn-based, but are you only able to take one action each round? Or could you recruit someone and also train them in the same round?
Yes 1 action per round.

Recruiting them includes basic spy training
They'll still need to learn other skills to be useful

Plus I'm thinking everyone will be a "Special"

Draygomb
10 Dec 07, 07:14:59 AM
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Norseman
10 Dec 07, 09:33:26 AM
Do the colleges teach all the skills up to arbitrary levels? What skills does basic spy training include, if any? How exactly do lynchings work?

I_pity_the_fool
10 Dec 07, 09:34:21 AM
Plus I'm thinking everyone will be a "Special"

Eh. In the last game we had the difficulty that you had to come up with a suitably convincing story to cover your real speciality. I hope this won't be a problem here.

SkepticTank
10 Dec 07, 09:37:36 AM
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SkepticTank
10 Dec 07, 09:38:16 AM
Eh. In the last game we had the difficulty that you had to come up with a suitably convincing story to cover your real speciality. I hope this won't be a problem here.

^^^ Scum Tell ^^^

Draygomb
10 Dec 07, 12:04:33 PM
Do the colleges teach all the skills up to arbitrary levels?
Levels 1-3 only
Anyone with funds may try to hire an advanced player to teach a class or just perform their skill

What skills does basic spy training include, if any?
Secret handshake, Password, Where to get funds and equipment to complete your assignment
Nothing pertinent to the game

How exactly do lynchings work?
Once an Innocent has been killed
If the cop doesn’t immediately arrest the posted killer
The town gets to vote to have a lynching or not
If they vote for a lynching they can lynch any one person it doesn’t have to be the killer
Hey, it’s mob rule reason need not apply

In the last game we had the difficulty that you had to come up with a suitably convincing story to cover your real speciality. I hope this won't be a problem here.
I don’t think it will
Most of the specials are just excuses to start players off with 1 or 2 spy skills which they mostly won’t be able to use for lack of funding unless they become a spy

Pavlov's Dog
12 Dec 07, 01:47:54 PM
I'm in.

Draygomb
14 Dec 07, 07:09:27 AM
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Worldtraveller
19 Dec 07, 05:37:23 PM
Sounds like fun, since there are unlimited time between moves (I promise I won't keep ya waiting weeks though).

Draygomb
20 Dec 07, 07:35:14 AM
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Tom Sawyer
23 Dec 07, 09:20:38 PM
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mrickaby
24 Dec 07, 05:12:40 PM
I'll play this.

Laughing Dog
26 Dec 07, 11:23:53 AM
I'll play - these games need early victims.

WTF
26 Dec 07, 03:43:29 PM
I'll play.

Draygomb
27 Dec 07, 09:30:10 AM
1 Damian
2 Tears
3 Norseman
4 Pavlov's Dog
5 WorldTraveller
6 MrIckaby
7 Laughing Dog
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ELV
4 Feb 08, 04:59:35 PM
I'll do this.

Draygomb
5 Feb 08, 07:25:00 AM
1 Damian
2 Tears
3 Norseman
4 Pavlov's Dog
5 WorldTraveller
6 MrIckaby
7 Laughing Dog
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Beren
11 Feb 08, 01:10:50 AM
Put me in, I suppose

jamesbannon
11 Feb 08, 03:39:24 AM
Don't know how the game is going to go, but I'm in.

plaridel
13 Feb 08, 09:50:44 AM
This one's next to ELV's right? Sign me up please!

th1nk3r
13 Feb 08, 11:23:40 AM
/in

Draygomb
13 Feb 08, 12:13:49 PM
1 Damian
2 Tears
3 Norseman
4 Pavlov's Dog
5 WorldTraveller
6 MrIckaby
7 Laughing Dog
8 WTF
9 ELV
10 Beren
11 JamesBannon
12 Plaridel
13 Skeptictank
14 Th1nk3r
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Very Nice

sonofsyd
21 Feb 08, 07:09:57 PM
1 Damian
2 Tears
3 Norseman
4 Pavlov's Dog
5 WorldTraveller
6 MrIckaby
7 Laughing Dog
8 WTF
9 ELV
10 Beren
11 JamesBannon
12 Plaridel
13 Skeptictank
14 Th1nk3r
15 sonofsyd
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19 Tom Sawyer
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Nightson
21 Feb 08, 11:07:40 PM
/in

Draygomb
25 Feb 08, 07:20:37 AM
1 Damian
2 Tears
3 Norseman
4 Pavlov's Dog
5 WorldTraveller
6 MrIckaby
7 Laughing Dog
8 WTF
9 ELV
10 Beren
11 JamesBannon
12 Plaridel
13 Skeptictank
14 Th1nk3r
15 sonofsyd
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LuisGarcia
27 Feb 08, 07:24:04 AM
1 Damian
2 Tears
3 Norseman
4 Pavlov's Dog
5 WorldTraveller
6 MrIckaby
7 Laughing Dog
8 WTF
9 ELV
10 Beren
11 JamesBannon
12 Plaridel
13 Skeptictank
14 Th1nk3r
15 sonofsyd
16 Nightson
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19 Tom Sawyer
20 Luis

Jacey
27 Feb 08, 07:35:38 AM
If I'm not in I'll play

Draygomb
27 Feb 08, 07:40:38 AM
Great 2 more and we can get started
Guess I'll start checking that everyone is still in
Go ahead and PM me if I don't get to you first
Ok 1 more

trillian
27 Feb 08, 09:51:18 AM
I'm in. (But I am out most of today if you start it)

2 Tears
3 Norseman
4 Pavlov's Dog
5 WorldTraveller
6 MrIckaby
7 Laughing Dog
8 WTF
9 ELV
10 Beren
11 JamesBannon
12 Plaridel
13 Skeptictank
14 Th1nk3r
15 sonofsyd
16 Nightson
17 Jacey
18 trillian
19 Tom Sawyer
20 Luis

Draygomb
27 Feb 08, 10:31:24 AM
I'll take more and shoot for a Monday start

Spenser
27 Feb 08, 03:50:45 PM
I assumed I was already in, so I'm in!

Tenuous
28 Feb 08, 02:16:45 AM
I can play if you need me.

Draygomb
28 Feb 08, 07:12:58 AM
Confirmed

1 Damian
2 Tears
3 Norseman
4 Pavlov's Dog
5 Spenser
6 MrIckaby
7 Laughing Dog
8 WTF
9 ELV
10 Beren
11 JamesBannon
12 Plaridel
13 Skeptictank
14 Th1nk3r
15 sonofsyd
16 Nightson
17 Jacey
18 trillian
19 Tom Sawyer
20 Luis
21 Tenuous

Spenser
28 Feb 08, 11:15:06 AM
I still don't quite get it but I guess we'll learn as we go.

Jacey
28 Feb 08, 11:16:53 AM
I still don't quite get it but I guess we'll learn as we go.

Do what I do, don't read the rules or roles till around day 4.

Tears On My Dong
28 Feb 08, 12:16:42 PM
When do we start?

SkepticTank
28 Feb 08, 12:19:09 PM
I still don't quite get it but I guess we'll learn as we go.

Do what I do, don't read the rules or roles till around day 4.

Can I not be siblings with Jacey this time?

trillian
28 Feb 08, 05:52:52 PM
So Dray, can you explain how this game actually works? Like what happens each day and if PM's are allowed, the roles and what they do, etc... I dont get what you mean by saying that lynchings dont happen early but then do later on.
I'm totally lost.

Tears On My Dong
28 Feb 08, 06:00:52 PM
I assassinate trillian and take her money.

Draygomb
29 Feb 08, 06:28:09 AM
So Dray, can you explain how this game actually works? Like what happens each day and if PM's are allowed, the roles and what they do, etc... I dont get what you mean by saying that lynchings dont happen early but then do later on.
I'm totally lost.All Killings are supposed to be spies killing spies
If a non spy gets killed I'll out the killer
The cops then get the chance to arrest the killer thus avoiding a lynch
Arresting a killer takes them out of the game
Anyone else who gets caught goes to jail for 1 turn per offense and can't perform any activities but can still be killed
If the cops don't arrest the killer the town gets to vote to lynch someone
It's a mob so majority rules even if it's not the killer

Some players have jobs that let them perform certain activities such as raising funds both legally and illegally
funds can be used to perform spying activities after normal working hours
Or you can try to hire another player to perform an action for you

Once you're recruited you become a spy
Spies have enough funds to perform all of their spying activities (1/Turn)
So if a cop becomes a spy he can perform 2 actions per turn one of which has to be job related

Each turn represents a month so day and night activities will be sent in together and occur together

plaridel
29 Feb 08, 08:54:47 AM
Ok, so what are we supposed to discuss in the game thread again?

Draygomb
29 Feb 08, 09:01:04 AM
Any Information that you'd like to give to your enemies as well as your friends

Speak only to those you trust

And trust nobody

Spenser
29 Feb 08, 11:12:15 AM
OK, but how do you actually play? If I am a spy do I post "Kill Trillian?" Or if I am a cop and trill gets killed by Jacey to I post "Arrest JAcey"?

Or is it PMed to you? I see what abilities there are but I am clueless on how they are implemented.

Tears On My Dong
29 Feb 08, 11:27:35 AM
Tell me what you are, Spenser. I'll tell you what to do.

jamesbannon
29 Feb 08, 07:24:43 PM
OK. I have my role PM & alignment etc. Does anybody know what the alignment of the other players are? Are we supposed to guess in thread?

Beren
29 Feb 08, 07:34:42 PM
OK. I have my role PM & alignment etc. Does anybody know what the alignment of the other players are? Are we supposed to guess in thread?

beats me

Tom Sawyer
2 Mar 08, 08:19:38 AM
OK. I have my role PM & alignment etc. Does anybody know what the alignment of the other players are? Are we supposed to guess in thread?

Right, everyone please post their alignment and role in the game thread. That will eliminate guessing.

sonofsyd
2 Mar 08, 01:22:59 PM
Right, everyone please post their alignment and role in the game thread. That will eliminate guessing.

My alignment is Pink and I have the gay vote.